i have been to manor farm 3 times now.The first time i went to blunhams lake: at blunhams we noticedafter a long period of time that they wernt in open water, it was to my dad noticed swirled under a tree next to him so he plopped his rod there and had two doubles out.We then moved to the end of the lake where he had another double and my friend with a 14lb and me getting a 9lb. B)